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Post by Dimin1sh on May 3, 2011 21:36:50 GMT -5
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Post by eclipse. on May 3, 2011 22:51:19 GMT -5
meh most overrated mvp choice ever.
the nba doesn't like 3 peats so they chose the next guy. they did the same thing to steve nash a couple years ago. he repeated and his third year he should have gotten it, but didn't.
The reigning 2 time MVP says big deal, roll your ankles some more.
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Post by Dimin1sh on May 3, 2011 22:58:53 GMT -5
BRING MORE TEARS I <3 THEM!!
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Post by eclipse. on May 4, 2011 11:42:56 GMT -5
meh any genuine basketball fan who is able to see past the media would agree. d rose got blown out of proportion. LeBron's +/- stats are better.. meaning the heat are more likely to lose without LeBron than the Bulls are without Rose, his field goal percentage is better, and he is just an all around better player than rose. congrats to him and all, but i don't see the big deal with him... rajan rondo is a better player at that position. its cool that he won that though at least bulls fans have a reason to be so up in arms this year and even next year since you all know deep down you are not winning any titles.  dont get me wrong he is a good player im not saying hes a bad player he does some nice things but I mean he is definitely no King James and never will be. If you guys can even make it past the hawks you will see. |
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Post by Dimin1sh on May 4, 2011 14:35:15 GMT -5
regular season we swept the heat just sayin. Anyway yeah I know that Rose isn't better than Lebron, it is clear that Lebron overall is the more talented player, but I argue the fact that Lebron is more valuable to Miami than rose is to Chicago. Lebron admitted it at the beginning of the year that teaming up with 2 other superstars would hurt his MVP chances and it did.. for good reason. Last year the Heat went 47-35 and made it to the playoffs... with out James or Bosh. The team is still a playoff caliber team without James. The Bulls would be no where near where they are now(the best record in the NBA) w/ out Rose. When it comes to most VALUABLE player, Rose is of much more value to his team than James is.
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Post by eclipse. on May 4, 2011 22:06:49 GMT -5
No. He isn't. LOL. I am sorry that you are a blinded Chicago fan and just do not get it. LeBron James is more valuable to the Miami Heat than D Rose is to the Chicago Bulls. Any point guard in the league can score 25 points off 30 shots. Without LeBron James the Heat are way more likely to lose than Chi-town without D Rose. It's a fact, a non arguable fact. the stats and numbers prove it.
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Post by dash on May 4, 2011 23:44:59 GMT -5
you dont raise a very good argument clip.
i dont follow it that much but as an innocent bystander im leaning towards dimi hehehe
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Post by Dimin1sh on May 4, 2011 23:51:58 GMT -5
Your argument makes no sense... without rose who do the bulls have?? deng and noah... whom are not classified as superstars... without lebron who do the heat have?? DWAYNE WADE and chris bosh.... think about.
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Post by Dimin1sh on May 5, 2011 0:01:35 GMT -5
and how do the stats and numbers prove it?
This Year:
James pt. avg: 26
Wade pt. avg: 25
Bosh pt. avg: 18
Rose pt. avg: 25
Deng pt. avg: 17
Boozer pt. avg: 16
Do the math.
edit: Just also thought I should add that Rose won this competition by a landslide, it wasn't even close. James didn't even get second place, Dwight Howard did, all the top NBA analysts know that since James went to Miami he is no longer the MVP.. James even knows it himself.
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Post by eclipse. on May 5, 2011 1:49:16 GMT -5
James already stated he doesn't expect to win MVP honors after going to Miami even if he carried the team single handedly on his back, which he does, by the way. Wade and Bosh would not win without LeBron, hands down, no question, that's a wrap.
The bulls also have very good role players, they do not have any "superstars" and that includes Rose. The Heat, well they have 2 "superstars" and 1 real good player and then some roster spots.
You can look at the New York Knicks. Amare, Chauncey, and Melo; 3 "superstars" and no real role players after they traded their team. You can take one of them out and Knicks will fare, the Heat NEED James on the floor to win. The Bulls don't NEED Rose on the floor to win, it just makes everyone elses job easier, because he shoots 30+ shots a game.
You are looking at the wrong stats and you are looking at the situation wrong.
James, averages more points, more assits, more rebounds. With James adding a higher point average and more assists, a better field goal percentage, better PLUS/MINUS stats than D Rose I don't see how you think D Rose is all that. LeBron also brings a skillset that is on an entire different level than Rose.
Leave the rest of the players out, don't even mention them. The Bulls fare better without D Rose than the Heat do without LeBron James, that is by a landslide, a real landside, not biased judges. I mean, look at the Cleveland Cavs, LeBron should win MVP on that note ALONE, and then add in that the Heats scoring percentage is significantly higher when LeBron James touches the ball than that of the Bulls when D Rose touches it.
Like I said, good for him for winning, but even he knows he doesn't deserve it, and if he thinks he deserves, then he is just as selfish as he plays.
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Post by eclipse. on May 5, 2011 1:52:22 GMT -5
you dont raise a very good argument clip. i dont follow it that much but as an innocent bystander im leaning towards dimi hehehe thats because your understanding of basketball seems to be about as much as his... I am telling you this. If both of the players, James and Rose break their legs and each miss an entire season, the Chicago Bulls will have a better record than the Miami Heat. I would put my car on that. |
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Post by dash on May 5, 2011 3:12:18 GMT -5
such a stubborn mother fucker.
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Post by Tragic on May 5, 2011 8:08:00 GMT -5
I'm the motha fucka MVP of basket ball, now cheer my name bitches!
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Post by Str8SicK on May 5, 2011 9:25:46 GMT -5
canadians should stick to hock ey |
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Post by Two Kittens on May 5, 2011 10:05:12 GMT -5
lol
in all seriousness dwight howard should have won mvp
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